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	<title>Comments on: PR as Common Sense Part II</title>
	<link>http://www.marcomblog.com/2006/02/01/pr-as-common-sense-part-ii/</link>
	<description>Marcom - Marketing Communications  ::  PR/Marcom Pros Mentoring Students</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://www.marcomblog.com/2006/02/01/pr-as-common-sense-part-ii/#comment-1532</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.marcomblog.com/2006/02/01/pr-as-common-sense-part-ii/#comment-1532</guid>
		<description>On the same lines as the comments earlier, I think it is so important that we examine our words and statements in order to serve the customers needs. At Auburn, I often find it difficult to avoid "Auburnspeak" when giving tours to potential new students. Our org-speak often alienates the customer, and anytime you do that, significant damage control must be performed. It truly is all about making the customer understand what you are talking about. Clear, straightforward communication. 

Often, I think in public relations, we feel as though we have to make our words fancy and our statements complicated. But I am reminded of Rule 17 of Strunk and White: a statement all public relations majors at Auburn were required to memorize. Make things simple. There is no need for needless words. We need not to just memorize it, but apply it to all aspects of our public relations techniques.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the same lines as the comments earlier, I think it is so important that we examine our words and statements in order to serve the customers needs. At Auburn, I often find it difficult to avoid &#8220;Auburnspeak&#8221; when giving tours to potential new students. Our org-speak often alienates the customer, and anytime you do that, significant damage control must be performed. It truly is all about making the customer understand what you are talking about. Clear, straightforward communication. </p>
<p>Often, I think in public relations, we feel as though we have to make our words fancy and our statements complicated. But I am reminded of Rule 17 of Strunk and White: a statement all public relations majors at Auburn were required to memorize. Make things simple. There is no need for needless words. We need not to just memorize it, but apply it to all aspects of our public relations techniques.</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie</title>
		<link>http://www.marcomblog.com/2006/02/01/pr-as-common-sense-part-ii/#comment-1531</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 05:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.marcomblog.com/2006/02/01/pr-as-common-sense-part-ii/#comment-1531</guid>
		<description>Funny thing about this post is that it reminded me of another situation where "org-speak" can prove costly if there is not a good translator on hand.  For PR professionals, it is our job to be this translator, to ensure that a normal person will be able to understand what our organization is trying to inform them of.

Things get really hairy when people like my dad, an architecture graduate (who at the time of this anecdote worked for an environmental design firm) are forced to translate the org-speak for the general public.

Dad's firm had a contract in Niceville, FL a few years back doing environmental impact statements and environmental assesments, which is org-speak (ha.) for checking to make sure that land (that in this case was wanted for missile testing) was not inhabited by some random endangered species of sea turtle or other such creature that could be lost forever with the testing of missiles in a certain spot.

My dad had to translate some very technical jargon involving what effect testing missiles in Niceville would have on water quality, pollution, and several species of local sea turtle to the somewhat concerned, confused and often angry locals.

What a task for someone who's not even a trained professional: pitch the testing of MISSILES in the backyard of someone's family home.  Poor Dad... but I think he at least would be more understanding of the pains I might face in my future career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny thing about this post is that it reminded me of another situation where &#8220;org-speak&#8221; can prove costly if there is not a good translator on hand.  For PR professionals, it is our job to be this translator, to ensure that a normal person will be able to understand what our organization is trying to inform them of.</p>
<p>Things get really hairy when people like my dad, an architecture graduate (who at the time of this anecdote worked for an environmental design firm) are forced to translate the org-speak for the general public.</p>
<p>Dad&#8217;s firm had a contract in Niceville, FL a few years back doing environmental impact statements and environmental assesments, which is org-speak (ha.) for checking to make sure that land (that in this case was wanted for missile testing) was not inhabited by some random endangered species of sea turtle or other such creature that could be lost forever with the testing of missiles in a certain spot.</p>
<p>My dad had to translate some very technical jargon involving what effect testing missiles in Niceville would have on water quality, pollution, and several species of local sea turtle to the somewhat concerned, confused and often angry locals.</p>
<p>What a task for someone who&#8217;s not even a trained professional: pitch the testing of MISSILES in the backyard of someone&#8217;s family home.  Poor Dad&#8230; but I think he at least would be more understanding of the pains I might face in my future career.</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie</title>
		<link>http://www.marcomblog.com/2006/02/01/pr-as-common-sense-part-ii/#comment-1530</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 05:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.marcomblog.com/2006/02/01/pr-as-common-sense-part-ii/#comment-1530</guid>
		<description>For a while while I was younger, my dad worked for an environmental design firm.  The company also did a lot of other kinds of environmental work.  One year, the firm completed environmental impact statements and assesments around a military base in Florida's panhandle, deciding whether or not testing missiles in this location would kill of some random endangered species of sea turtle, or whether the spot was all clear.

Dad's job was to translate the technical results of the firm's testing to the somewhat angry, concerned and confused publics.  He was not a scientist, but he did know what these impact statments meant thanks in part to long explanations from the real scientists.  Basically, he was the liaison between the technical freaks with their "org speak" and the general public.  Poor guy, the architecture and design major ended up performing a community relations role for a solid year there, but I think it would help him understand what I will be attempting in my future career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a while while I was younger, my dad worked for an environmental design firm.  The company also did a lot of other kinds of environmental work.  One year, the firm completed environmental impact statements and assesments around a military base in Florida&#8217;s panhandle, deciding whether or not testing missiles in this location would kill of some random endangered species of sea turtle, or whether the spot was all clear.</p>
<p>Dad&#8217;s job was to translate the technical results of the firm&#8217;s testing to the somewhat angry, concerned and confused publics.  He was not a scientist, but he did know what these impact statments meant thanks in part to long explanations from the real scientists.  Basically, he was the liaison between the technical freaks with their &#8220;org speak&#8221; and the general public.  Poor guy, the architecture and design major ended up performing a community relations role for a solid year there, but I think it would help him understand what I will be attempting in my future career.</p>
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		<title>By: Paige</title>
		<link>http://www.marcomblog.com/2006/02/01/pr-as-common-sense-part-ii/#comment-1466</link>
		<dc:creator>Paige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.marcomblog.com/2006/02/01/pr-as-common-sense-part-ii/#comment-1466</guid>
		<description>PR as common sense...you’re clear that you aren't saying you're "dumbing down" a client's concept or idea, but that you're trying communicating more efficiently.  

I think it's important that we communicate not simply, but accurately, which is one of those skills we develop through lots of practice.  I know I try to practice communicating my ideas accurately.  Now, I'm no professional communicator, but there's nothing more frustrating than, for instance, watching the Bachelor, and seeing bachelorette Susan try to express her feelings for bachelor Travis, and she says "I've never felt like this before."  She's also said, "This is the best birthday ever."  I just want to put words in her mouth!  I'm sitting there thinking, "Really?!?!...best birthday ever?  What about that carnival birthday you probably had when you were eight?  And, really?!  You've NEVER felt this way before about anyone?  You just broke off an engagement before you came on the show.  You've obviously felt like this before. It was just with a different person." I realize Susan is working under a deadline, since Travis only has one date to get to know her, so she has to cut to the chase.  Her message is too general though, and does not convey her true feelings.  

If we always spoke of ideas and concepts efficiently, we would go around speaking only in maxims, proverbs and clichés.  I think the real challenge is being able to communicate efficiently, but with accuracy.  That's quite a task, but it's good the English language has so many words that allow us to accurately describe feelings, thoughts and concepts. We have to expand our vocabulary to where we can deliver a message and our audience will nod and say "uh huh, I understand," and not  "I'm sorry, I'm not quite sure what you're saying."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PR as common sense&#8230;you’re clear that you aren&#8217;t saying you&#8217;re &#8220;dumbing down&#8221; a client&#8217;s concept or idea, but that you&#8217;re trying communicating more efficiently.  </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s important that we communicate not simply, but accurately, which is one of those skills we develop through lots of practice.  I know I try to practice communicating my ideas accurately.  Now, I&#8217;m no professional communicator, but there&#8217;s nothing more frustrating than, for instance, watching the Bachelor, and seeing bachelorette Susan try to express her feelings for bachelor Travis, and she says &#8220;I&#8217;ve never felt like this before.&#8221;  She&#8217;s also said, &#8220;This is the best birthday ever.&#8221;  I just want to put words in her mouth!  I&#8217;m sitting there thinking, &#8220;Really?!?!&#8230;best birthday ever?  What about that carnival birthday you probably had when you were eight?  And, really?!  You&#8217;ve NEVER felt this way before about anyone?  You just broke off an engagement before you came on the show.  You&#8217;ve obviously felt like this before. It was just with a different person.&#8221; I realize Susan is working under a deadline, since Travis only has one date to get to know her, so she has to cut to the chase.  Her message is too general though, and does not convey her true feelings.  </p>
<p>If we always spoke of ideas and concepts efficiently, we would go around speaking only in maxims, proverbs and clichés.  I think the real challenge is being able to communicate efficiently, but with accuracy.  That&#8217;s quite a task, but it&#8217;s good the English language has so many words that allow us to accurately describe feelings, thoughts and concepts. We have to expand our vocabulary to where we can deliver a message and our audience will nod and say &#8220;uh huh, I understand,&#8221; and not  &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry, I&#8217;m not quite sure what you&#8217;re saying.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lara</title>
		<link>http://www.marcomblog.com/2006/02/01/pr-as-common-sense-part-ii/#comment-1463</link>
		<dc:creator>Lara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 18:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.marcomblog.com/2006/02/01/pr-as-common-sense-part-ii/#comment-1463</guid>
		<description>I do agree with the above comments. I believe that sometimes it is necessary to get an outsiders opinion on something. In some situations people become too close to a problem and miss important factors. The best advice I ever received in high school was to never rely solely on myself to edit a work or fix a problem. Sometimes it is so hard to catch a mistake that you created, because you just overlook it assuming your work is correct. I think this is why in college so much emphasis is focused on peer review. I believe 9 times out of 10 someone is going to have a different suggestion than you. I'm not necessarily saying that everything "outside" people suggest to you is correct, I just think it helps bring about a different perspective. 
 
With an organization, many times I feel that it sometimes slips their mind that they are speaking to someone on the outside when communicating. "Org speak" can be detrimental to an organization because it can confuse the organization's publics. I agree with Josh when he states that "this is not about dumbing down.....just making them more efficient." Eliminating "org speak" and speaking to customers, potential clients, and any external public for that matter makes a concept easier to understand. It shows that the organization is trying to speak TO their external publics not AT them. Speaking "at" them and not trying to make the concepts understandable from an outsider's perspective seems almost careless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree with the above comments. I believe that sometimes it is necessary to get an outsiders opinion on something. In some situations people become too close to a problem and miss important factors. The best advice I ever received in high school was to never rely solely on myself to edit a work or fix a problem. Sometimes it is so hard to catch a mistake that you created, because you just overlook it assuming your work is correct. I think this is why in college so much emphasis is focused on peer review. I believe 9 times out of 10 someone is going to have a different suggestion than you. I&#8217;m not necessarily saying that everything &#8220;outside&#8221; people suggest to you is correct, I just think it helps bring about a different perspective. </p>
<p>With an organization, many times I feel that it sometimes slips their mind that they are speaking to someone on the outside when communicating. &#8220;Org speak&#8221; can be detrimental to an organization because it can confuse the organization&#8217;s publics. I agree with Josh when he states that &#8220;this is not about dumbing down&#8230;..just making them more efficient.&#8221; Eliminating &#8220;org speak&#8221; and speaking to customers, potential clients, and any external public for that matter makes a concept easier to understand. It shows that the organization is trying to speak TO their external publics not AT them. Speaking &#8220;at&#8221; them and not trying to make the concepts understandable from an outsider&#8217;s perspective seems almost careless.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsey</title>
		<link>http://www.marcomblog.com/2006/02/01/pr-as-common-sense-part-ii/#comment-1456</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 22:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.marcomblog.com/2006/02/01/pr-as-common-sense-part-ii/#comment-1456</guid>
		<description>"Org-speak" is something I deal with everyday at my job.  I work for the campus newspaper here at Auburn University.  No, I don't write, I sell.  I sell advertising space to local businesses.  Org-speak is very hard to get away from when speaking with people.  

At work, we talk about things in column inches (one column inch equals 1.883 regular inches).  When we sell to our clients and customers, saying such things as column inch completely throws the conversation off.  I forget this sometimes when I am speaking with a new client.  I have people call and ask me to tell them some general info about advertising.  This is next to impossible.

The general info includes our org-speak, so I have to stop, think and re-word my pitch of "general info."  But it is always important to think about who you are speaking to.  It is not that you are speaking down to these people, but if they have no idea what you are talking about then it doesn't really help either of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Org-speak&#8221; is something I deal with everyday at my job.  I work for the campus newspaper here at Auburn University.  No, I don&#8217;t write, I sell.  I sell advertising space to local businesses.  Org-speak is very hard to get away from when speaking with people.  </p>
<p>At work, we talk about things in column inches (one column inch equals 1.883 regular inches).  When we sell to our clients and customers, saying such things as column inch completely throws the conversation off.  I forget this sometimes when I am speaking with a new client.  I have people call and ask me to tell them some general info about advertising.  This is next to impossible.</p>
<p>The general info includes our org-speak, so I have to stop, think and re-word my pitch of &#8220;general info.&#8221;  But it is always important to think about who you are speaking to.  It is not that you are speaking down to these people, but if they have no idea what you are talking about then it doesn&#8217;t really help either of you.</p>
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		<title>By: LC</title>
		<link>http://www.marcomblog.com/2006/02/01/pr-as-common-sense-part-ii/#comment-1451</link>
		<dc:creator>LC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 19:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.marcomblog.com/2006/02/01/pr-as-common-sense-part-ii/#comment-1451</guid>
		<description>Funny how simple can be so complicated. I think that you were right on the money when you mentioned "org-speak." The more people of a like mind or in the same environment interact, they more they develop their own way of saying things. This is all well and good for employee bonding and company morale, but when it comes to the publics- who cares? 

In one of my reading assignments I am learning about the importance of annual reports. These are necessary not only to comply with the SEC (Securities and Exchange Commission), but also to communicate to key publics like stockholders, customers and the media. These people can usually get the jist of the company's purpose. Bogging them down with jargon and super detailed information will serve only to confuse and annoy. Obviously that is not the message that the company wants to send out in their annual report.

That is why PR people have to be grounded in the company environment and in the outside world. They are the message shapers for those of us who don't know or care about the jargon. An efficient message should be simple, straightfoward and targeted. Thank God for PR practitioners and their commitment to the plain folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how simple can be so complicated. I think that you were right on the money when you mentioned &#8220;org-speak.&#8221; The more people of a like mind or in the same environment interact, they more they develop their own way of saying things. This is all well and good for employee bonding and company morale, but when it comes to the publics- who cares? </p>
<p>In one of my reading assignments I am learning about the importance of annual reports. These are necessary not only to comply with the SEC (Securities and Exchange Commission), but also to communicate to key publics like stockholders, customers and the media. These people can usually get the jist of the company&#8217;s purpose. Bogging them down with jargon and super detailed information will serve only to confuse and annoy. Obviously that is not the message that the company wants to send out in their annual report.</p>
<p>That is why PR people have to be grounded in the company environment and in the outside world. They are the message shapers for those of us who don&#8217;t know or care about the jargon. An efficient message should be simple, straightfoward and targeted. Thank God for PR practitioners and their commitment to the plain folks.</p>
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		<title>By: Courtney</title>
		<link>http://www.marcomblog.com/2006/02/01/pr-as-common-sense-part-ii/#comment-1416</link>
		<dc:creator>Courtney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.marcomblog.com/2006/02/01/pr-as-common-sense-part-ii/#comment-1416</guid>
		<description>As a student at a large university such as Auburn, I can readily identify with colloquialisms, jargon, and acronyms that overtake the culture. Universities are almost as bad as the military in regard to the amount of acronyms used on campus. Often, the process of change and "great" ideas from administration fall on the ears of students who, frankly, don't understand what they are saying. It's not good PR when you forget to whom you are speaking. The hierarchical presentation of which you speak is a classic example of a problem at universities. Everyone wants others to know that they are over other people.

This instance is one in which focus groups and surveys on a test audience would be beneficial. Getting information straight from the potential audience has no substitute when running a campaign. People will automatically reject a message that is over their heads or irrelevant. Knowing this beforehand has the potential to save a campaign. It's all about the audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a student at a large university such as Auburn, I can readily identify with colloquialisms, jargon, and acronyms that overtake the culture. Universities are almost as bad as the military in regard to the amount of acronyms used on campus. Often, the process of change and &#8220;great&#8221; ideas from administration fall on the ears of students who, frankly, don&#8217;t understand what they are saying. It&#8217;s not good PR when you forget to whom you are speaking. The hierarchical presentation of which you speak is a classic example of a problem at universities. Everyone wants others to know that they are over other people.</p>
<p>This instance is one in which focus groups and surveys on a test audience would be beneficial. Getting information straight from the potential audience has no substitute when running a campaign. People will automatically reject a message that is over their heads or irrelevant. Knowing this beforehand has the potential to save a campaign. It&#8217;s all about the audience.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandie</title>
		<link>http://www.marcomblog.com/2006/02/01/pr-as-common-sense-part-ii/#comment-1415</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it ironic in that you're talking about stating the obvious, and to me it seems like what you are actually saying, the post itself, is stating the obvious. This type of situation occurs more often than we think, not just in businesses or the "real world," but in everyday occurrences. 
In the classroom, often if a student doesn't understand something, no good comes from the teacher trying to explain it. More often than not, the teacher will simply restate what they've already said, not bringing any further clarity. But, if a second student understands the concept, this student will do a better job of explaining to the first student simply because the second student is further removed from the situation and has a fresher explanation. 
If a friend is in a relationship that is slowly (maybe rapidly) going downhill, most people know that you as an "outsider" will see things more clearly because you aren't as emotionally involved as said friend.
It seems so common, so cut-and-dry in everyday situations. Most people understand that concept of being "too involved" to see things clearly. Why shouldn't the business world, PR included, be the same way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it ironic in that you&#8217;re talking about stating the obvious, and to me it seems like what you are actually saying, the post itself, is stating the obvious. This type of situation occurs more often than we think, not just in businesses or the &#8220;real world,&#8221; but in everyday occurrences.<br />
In the classroom, often if a student doesn&#8217;t understand something, no good comes from the teacher trying to explain it. More often than not, the teacher will simply restate what they&#8217;ve already said, not bringing any further clarity. But, if a second student understands the concept, this student will do a better job of explaining to the first student simply because the second student is further removed from the situation and has a fresher explanation.<br />
If a friend is in a relationship that is slowly (maybe rapidly) going downhill, most people know that you as an &#8220;outsider&#8221; will see things more clearly because you aren&#8217;t as emotionally involved as said friend.<br />
It seems so common, so cut-and-dry in everyday situations. Most people understand that concept of being &#8220;too involved&#8221; to see things clearly. Why shouldn&#8217;t the business world, PR included, be the same way?</p>
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