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	<title>Comments on: Daddy, what do you do?</title>
	<link>http://www.marcomblog.com/2007/11/01/daddy-what-do-you-do/</link>
	<description>Marcom - Marketing Communications  ::  PR/Marcom Pros Mentoring Students</description>
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		<title>By: Lee Hopkins</title>
		<link>http://www.marcomblog.com/2007/11/01/daddy-what-do-you-do/#comment-19653</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Hopkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 23:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All,

This Q&#38;A approach has been helpful to some of you, it seems. 

Robert: if it is of any value, perhaps Monsieur Jenkins and myself, plus any of my other learned colleagues, can reply to a series of questions your students ask of us. Where we can add something of value, we do. Where we cannot, we individually stay quiet.

In this way we can answer not only general questions, but also trade-specific ones, too. Ethics questions are usually a good starting point! (grin)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All,</p>
<p>This Q&amp;A approach has been helpful to some of you, it seems. </p>
<p>Robert: if it is of any value, perhaps Monsieur Jenkins and myself, plus any of my other learned colleagues, can reply to a series of questions your students ask of us. Where we can add something of value, we do. Where we cannot, we individually stay quiet.</p>
<p>In this way we can answer not only general questions, but also trade-specific ones, too. Ethics questions are usually a good starting point! (grin)</p>
<p>What say you?</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Hopkins</title>
		<link>http://www.marcomblog.com/2007/11/01/daddy-what-do-you-do/#comment-19652</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Hopkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 23:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.marcomblog.com/2007/11/01/daddy-what-do-you-do/#comment-19652</guid>
		<description>Sara,

I didn't even realise that what I was doing WAS something called 'Business Communication' for many, many years!

'Business Communication' as a term seems to imply that you instinctively 'know' what it means, whereas the reality is that it can mean anything you want it to mean.

It is PR? Yes, but it is also employee comms, stakeholder comms, investor comms, political lobbying, online comms, community comms... you name it, if it has words, pictures or video attached to it is probably belongs to us.

The challenge for folks like you and I is not so much the 'what' but whether we can actually contribute anything of value. For example, I would be lying and doing my client a disservice if I said I was a Communication Consultant who understood corporate video.

The challenge we all face is being honest and saying what our true experience and interests are, rather than bluffing and hoping we can say enough of the right things to get the job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sara,</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t even realise that what I was doing WAS something called &#8216;Business Communication&#8217; for many, many years!</p>
<p>&#8216;Business Communication&#8217; as a term seems to imply that you instinctively &#8216;know&#8217; what it means, whereas the reality is that it can mean anything you want it to mean.</p>
<p>It is PR? Yes, but it is also employee comms, stakeholder comms, investor comms, political lobbying, online comms, community comms&#8230; you name it, if it has words, pictures or video attached to it is probably belongs to us.</p>
<p>The challenge for folks like you and I is not so much the &#8216;what&#8217; but whether we can actually contribute anything of value. For example, I would be lying and doing my client a disservice if I said I was a Communication Consultant who understood corporate video.</p>
<p>The challenge we all face is being honest and saying what our true experience and interests are, rather than bluffing and hoping we can say enough of the right things to get the job.</p>
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		<title>By: Utilizing Online Contacts: The Lee Hopkins Presentation &#171; Youngblood PR &#38; Marketing</title>
		<link>http://www.marcomblog.com/2007/11/01/daddy-what-do-you-do/#comment-19651</link>
		<dc:creator>Utilizing Online Contacts: The Lee Hopkins Presentation &#171; Youngblood PR &#38; Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 22:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.marcomblog.com/2007/11/01/daddy-what-do-you-do/#comment-19651</guid>
		<description>[...] I would like to thank Lee for his excellent contributions and point all you faithful readers to the posting of our Q+A as well as the piece he recorded for our presentation over at the Marcom [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I would like to thank Lee for his excellent contributions and point all you faithful readers to the posting of our Q+A as well as the piece he recorded for our presentation over at the Marcom [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn C</title>
		<link>http://www.marcomblog.com/2007/11/01/daddy-what-do-you-do/#comment-19612</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.marcomblog.com/2007/11/01/daddy-what-do-you-do/#comment-19612</guid>
		<description>Thank you for showing some insight into the business side of this industry. As I wait for graduation to come I find myself daydreaming about what I'll be doing in my job and what clients I will come in contact with. Somehow, the business aspect seems to be forgotten. It was interesting to read about how you created your own business plan and policies. I also enjoyed hearing that one way is not the only way as Allan Jenkins has different policies he abides by, but both seem to be successful. It is reassuring to know that there is no one answer set in stone that all must abid by. You have to make it work for you. Thank you for your post. It is helpful to be able to sit down and read questions that I may have immediately followed by the answers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for showing some insight into the business side of this industry. As I wait for graduation to come I find myself daydreaming about what I&#8217;ll be doing in my job and what clients I will come in contact with. Somehow, the business aspect seems to be forgotten. It was interesting to read about how you created your own business plan and policies. I also enjoyed hearing that one way is not the only way as Allan Jenkins has different policies he abides by, but both seem to be successful. It is reassuring to know that there is no one answer set in stone that all must abid by. You have to make it work for you. Thank you for your post. It is helpful to be able to sit down and read questions that I may have immediately followed by the answers.</p>
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		<title>By: sara</title>
		<link>http://www.marcomblog.com/2007/11/01/daddy-what-do-you-do/#comment-19595</link>
		<dc:creator>sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.marcomblog.com/2007/11/01/daddy-what-do-you-do/#comment-19595</guid>
		<description>Thank you for the new insight on social media. It is nice to know that the skills we are acquiring in our PR class will be appreciated in the business world as well. I found this post very informative. I really liked the question and answer set up because it was very easy to understand and follow. I am not exactly sure what I plan on doing when I graduate, but I do know that I still have very little understanding of the professional world. Honestly, I have heard the title "communications consultant" numerous times, but i never really knew what that entailed. I also like reading about the differences in the industry in South Australia. I have a very serious interest in working outside of the Unites States at some point in my career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the new insight on social media. It is nice to know that the skills we are acquiring in our PR class will be appreciated in the business world as well. I found this post very informative. I really liked the question and answer set up because it was very easy to understand and follow. I am not exactly sure what I plan on doing when I graduate, but I do know that I still have very little understanding of the professional world. Honestly, I have heard the title &#8220;communications consultant&#8221; numerous times, but i never really knew what that entailed. I also like reading about the differences in the industry in South Australia. I have a very serious interest in working outside of the Unites States at some point in my career.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.marcomblog.com/2007/11/01/daddy-what-do-you-do/#comment-19577</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.marcomblog.com/2007/11/01/daddy-what-do-you-do/#comment-19577</guid>
		<description>I appreciate your post. As a student about to emerge into the real world and begin the job searching process I always find it very informative to learn from professionals in my field. It was an insightful look into your job analysis. I enjoyed hearing your take on so many questions my fellow students and I have. I always find it refreshing and captivating to learn about the business world that awaits us, and what real people like you are doing. Thanks you so much for taking the time to sit down and answer them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate your post. As a student about to emerge into the real world and begin the job searching process I always find it very informative to learn from professionals in my field. It was an insightful look into your job analysis. I enjoyed hearing your take on so many questions my fellow students and I have. I always find it refreshing and captivating to learn about the business world that awaits us, and what real people like you are doing. Thanks you so much for taking the time to sit down and answer them!</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Jenkins</title>
		<link>http://www.marcomblog.com/2007/11/01/daddy-what-do-you-do/#comment-19569</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.marcomblog.com/2007/11/01/daddy-what-do-you-do/#comment-19569</guid>
		<description>Lee has the makings of a small book here, and I hope (and know) he knows that. Good, good stuff I wish I had known when I was starting my career.

[Disclaimer: Lee is my partner in sometimes crime at commscafe.com]

I am going to quibble with a couple of his views on "business," though (not communication).

Lee is asked: At what intervals do you demand payment from your clients?

Lee answers: 50% up front, 50% within 7 days on completion. They receive a 10% discount if they pay in full up front (saves me having to chase them for payment). If the project is a long one (lasting more than 2 months) I work out a 30% upfront, stagger interim payments monthly, and a 10% final amount on completion. 

Allan answers: I usually have no or small expenses before the job, so my terms are net cash 14 days (i.e., pay in full 14 days after the invoice date). I send the invoice the day after the job. Jobs that go over a month are billed at the end of the month for the work-in-progress.

I never give a discount for early payment, but charge interest and fees for late payment.

If the client wants me to contract a printing job, I hook them up with the printer directly... I don't "hold other people's money" anymore.

Lee is asked: Have you ever had any clients who have not paid? What have you done?

Lee answers: Yes, once. Repeated calls, letters and emails to them. When that has failed just write it off as a bad debt (and let my peers and friends know about it).

Allan answers: back in 1991, a client who didn't pay -- a friend and colleague -- nearly bankrupted me. Since then, I am stone cold about late payers. After a couple of reminders, I send it to my attorney.

Honest people who are going to pay you, but can't right then, are going to tell you way ahead of deadline. Anyone who waits 'til after deadline, and then sails in with "well, you know... I just talked to bookkeeping...." needs a little court time.

Allan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee has the makings of a small book here, and I hope (and know) he knows that. Good, good stuff I wish I had known when I was starting my career.</p>
<p>[Disclaimer: Lee is my partner in sometimes crime at commscafe.com]</p>
<p>I am going to quibble with a couple of his views on &#8220;business,&#8221; though (not communication).</p>
<p>Lee is asked: At what intervals do you demand payment from your clients?</p>
<p>Lee answers: 50% up front, 50% within 7 days on completion. They receive a 10% discount if they pay in full up front (saves me having to chase them for payment). If the project is a long one (lasting more than 2 months) I work out a 30% upfront, stagger interim payments monthly, and a 10% final amount on completion. </p>
<p>Allan answers: I usually have no or small expenses before the job, so my terms are net cash 14 days (i.e., pay in full 14 days after the invoice date). I send the invoice the day after the job. Jobs that go over a month are billed at the end of the month for the work-in-progress.</p>
<p>I never give a discount for early payment, but charge interest and fees for late payment.</p>
<p>If the client wants me to contract a printing job, I hook them up with the printer directly&#8230; I don&#8217;t &#8220;hold other people&#8217;s money&#8221; anymore.</p>
<p>Lee is asked: Have you ever had any clients who have not paid? What have you done?</p>
<p>Lee answers: Yes, once. Repeated calls, letters and emails to them. When that has failed just write it off as a bad debt (and let my peers and friends know about it).</p>
<p>Allan answers: back in 1991, a client who didn&#8217;t pay &#8212; a friend and colleague &#8212; nearly bankrupted me. Since then, I am stone cold about late payers. After a couple of reminders, I send it to my attorney.</p>
<p>Honest people who are going to pay you, but can&#8217;t right then, are going to tell you way ahead of deadline. Anyone who waits &#8217;til after deadline, and then sails in with &#8220;well, you know&#8230; I just talked to bookkeeping&#8230;.&#8221; needs a little court time.</p>
<p>Allan</p>
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		<title>By: Alana</title>
		<link>http://www.marcomblog.com/2007/11/01/daddy-what-do-you-do/#comment-19567</link>
		<dc:creator>Alana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.marcomblog.com/2007/11/01/daddy-what-do-you-do/#comment-19567</guid>
		<description>I appreciate the insight into the ever-evolving PR industry. I am still clueless about what I want to do when I "grow up" and your post has given me several starting points. 

I am not the type of person who can do the same thing all day every day. I would get bored really fast, so it is comforting to know that PR will most likely give me the variety to keep me on my toes and motivated to do my best work.

I know my class would have additional questions about what you do for a living, perhaps you would let us pick your brain sometime?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the insight into the ever-evolving PR industry. I am still clueless about what I want to do when I &#8220;grow up&#8221; and your post has given me several starting points. </p>
<p>I am not the type of person who can do the same thing all day every day. I would get bored really fast, so it is comforting to know that PR will most likely give me the variety to keep me on my toes and motivated to do my best work.</p>
<p>I know my class would have additional questions about what you do for a living, perhaps you would let us pick your brain sometime?</p>
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		<title>By: morgan</title>
		<link>http://www.marcomblog.com/2007/11/01/daddy-what-do-you-do/#comment-19564</link>
		<dc:creator>morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your job sounds very interesting. And it was neat to hear how things are so different in South Australia. For instance, you don't spend the money on advertising because it would be a waste. I can't imagine that happening here. 

I'm graduating in December and I just want you to know how inspiring it is to hear (or read) other peoples career testimonies. 

There are so many options out there and this interview truly gave me soem great insight into the world of business, public relations and marketing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your job sounds very interesting. And it was neat to hear how things are so different in South Australia. For instance, you don&#8217;t spend the money on advertising because it would be a waste. I can&#8217;t imagine that happening here. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m graduating in December and I just want you to know how inspiring it is to hear (or read) other peoples career testimonies. </p>
<p>There are so many options out there and this interview truly gave me soem great insight into the world of business, public relations and marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah H</title>
		<link>http://www.marcomblog.com/2007/11/01/daddy-what-do-you-do/#comment-19544</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 01:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes hearing answers to simple questions is more helpful than anything else. Reading and listening to your explanations about what you do was insightful. This look into what your job entails makes me excited about being able to tell other what I do one day. 

Being able to write that out must make you proud of where your career has taken you!

Thank you for sharing that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes hearing answers to simple questions is more helpful than anything else. Reading and listening to your explanations about what you do was insightful. This look into what your job entails makes me excited about being able to tell other what I do one day. </p>
<p>Being able to write that out must make you proud of where your career has taken you!</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing that.</p>
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